Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

03/27/2006 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 281 SCHOOL DIST. ENROLLMENT SHARING/CORRESPON TELECONFERENCED
<Above Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ HJR 31 FETAL ALCOHOL SPECTRUM DISORDERS DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HJR 31(HES) Out of Committee
+ HCR 5 FLUORIDATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS HCR 5(HES) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                       HCR 5-FLUORIDATION                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON announced HCR 5 to be up for consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PAUL SEATON,  Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor,                                                               
paraphrased the sponsor statement, which read:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     HCR  5 encourages  Alaskan  communities to  incorporate                                                                    
     fluoride in their public water systems.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Fluoridating  water  has  been  shown  to  dramatically                                                                    
     reduce   dental   cavities  especially   in   children.                                                                    
     Fluoride  is   one  of  the  most   efficient  ways  of                                                                    
     providing  cost-effective  preventative  dental  health                                                                    
     care.  Every dollar spent  on fluoridation saves $37 in                                                                    
     future  dental  expenses.   Currently,  all  cities  in                                                                    
     Alaska with  a population exceeding 30,000  have access                                                                    
     to  fluoridated water.    The  benefits of  fluoridated                                                                    
     water should be extended to all Alaskans.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     HCR 5 requests that all  new community water systems be                                                                    
     engineered   with   the  capacity   for   incorporating                                                                    
     fluoride.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Tooth   decay  is   a   serious   problem  in   Alaska,                                                                    
     particularly in  rural areas  where access  to dentists                                                                    
     is not easily available.   Poor dental health also puts                                                                    
     a major burden upon Medicaid/Medicare programs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Fluoridating community  water systems is  an investment                                                                    
     in Alaska's  public health  that would  provide returns                                                                    
     both in  dental health  and to the  pocketbook.   HCR 5                                                                    
     makes it  clear that the state  supports communities in                                                                    
     taking this step to improve  the dental health of their                                                                    
     residents.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He  emphasized that  HCR 5  leaves  up to  local communities  the                                                               
decision whether to fluoridate.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON arrived at 1:36:08 PM.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  referred to a  study by the U.S.  Food and                                                               
Drug Administration (FDA), brought  attention to numerous Alaskan                                                               
organizations  in   support  and  noted  that   69  world  health                                                               
organizations  support community  fluoridation.   In response  to                                                               
Chair  Dyson,  he  mentioned  the   zero  fiscal  note  from  the                                                               
Department  of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC)  as  well as  a                                                               
figure of $2,500 for engineering to add this ability.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON suggested costs would vary, depending on the plant.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:38:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked how often  a wrong concentration has been put                                                               
into a water supply.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  noted  there'd   been  one  very  serious                                                               
problem in Alaska.  He  pointed out that monitoring equipment has                                                               
vastly improved over time.  He  said he didn't know the number of                                                               
times an individual plant had been involved in such an incident.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN arrived at 1:40:09 PM.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[Audio recording begins.]                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:41:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON   began  discussion  of  what   became  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.  He said he had  no problem with the resolution, but                                                               
suggested clarification  was needed on  page 2, line  17, perhaps                                                               
to say "to  allow easy later incorporation of  fluoridation".  He                                                               
added that he needed to think about it further.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:42:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  highlighted the  same  wording,  but a  different                                                               
concern:    since  communities  don't design  or  pay  for  these                                                               
systems,  she  questioned  whether  they  really  have  a  choice                                                               
regarding what is incorporated into a system.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  indicated   someone  from  "Village  Safe                                                               
Water"  was on  teleconference.   He then  specified the  intent:                                                               
the State  of Alaska,  when it goes  through the  design criteria                                                               
and designs  water systems, will  incorporate into  those systems                                                               
the necessary connections.   The choice of  whether to fluoridate                                                               
the water is  up to the community, however.   He pointed out that                                                               
the state doesn't want to have  to re-engineer a system.  He said                                                               
he wasn't opposed to clarifying the language.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  asked,  if  this requires  DEC  to  take  action,                                                               
whether a  resolution is the  proper vehicle and  whether perhaps                                                               
it should be a bill instead.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  agreed that  if the  desire is  to mandate                                                               
that DEC do  it, there'd be a  bill.  He indicated  the intent is                                                               
that  this be  included in  the request  for proposals  (RFP) for                                                               
design, as one design criterion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN said  she believes  it goes  beyond a  resolution,                                                               
since if the community desires it  and requests it, then DEC will                                                               
be responsible for making it available.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON suggested  the Village  Safe Water  person                                                               
could say  whether that is  normally included in  designs anyway.                                                               
He  stated his  intention to  let DEC  know that  the legislature                                                               
would  appreciate it  if DEC  designed the  taps into  all future                                                               
facilities  so that  communities  could select  the  option at  a                                                               
future time without great cost.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:47:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON offered  his experience that a resolution  is one way                                                               
for the  legislature to declare its  intention.  He said  he sees                                                               
no  harm in  making  this statement.   If  DEC  concurs, it  will                                                               
probably happen if the administration doesn't disagree.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON proposed  amending page 2, line 17, to  say, "all new                                                               
public   water  systems   incorporate  engineering   designed  to                                                               
facilitate  incorporation of  fluoridation  if  the community  so                                                               
desires at a [later] time."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said he had no problem with that.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:49:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON remarked that he  was comfortable with the language                                                               
proposed by Chair Dyson, but  asked whether Representative Seaton                                                               
intended this to include all new water systems.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON replied, "The intent  here is the ones that                                                               
we fund,  and so we're  funding public water systems  and Village                                                               
Safe Water systems."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:49:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON pointed out that  some public water systems might not                                                               
have  a state  component  in  their funding.    He surmised  that                                                               
Representative  Seaton   meant  to  imply  the   ones  under  the                                                               
jurisdiction  of  the  state inspectors,  regardless  of  whether                                                               
state money is involved.  He requested confirmation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON nodded and replied, "Thank you."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:50:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN interpreted  the foregoing to mean  this includes a                                                               
private builder, and  again said she doesn't see how  this can be                                                               
done by resolution.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  clarified that  he  intends  to ensure  it  doesn't                                                               
include  a private  builder.   He pointed  out that  the original                                                               
language referred  to all new  systems.   He said he  didn't want                                                               
private individuals,  with their own  wells, to suddenly  have to                                                               
deal with this.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON said he appreciated the clarification.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:51:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  moved to  adopt  Conceptual  Amendment 1,  page  2,                                                               
line 17, to  read:  "Further  Resolved that all new  public water                                                               
systems    incorporate   engineering    design   to    facilitate                                                               
incorporation of  fluoridation if the  community so desires  at a                                                               
later  time."   Suggesting  it  was a  bit  awkward, Chair  Dyson                                                               
slightly reworded it to say "at  a later time if the community so                                                               
desires it."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:52:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  said he  liked the second  approach, but  would be                                                               
comfortable leaving it to the drafter.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked whether there  was any objection.  No objection                                                               
was stated, and Conceptual Amendment  1 was adopted. He announced                                                               
that the wording would be left to the drafter.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:52:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  noted  that on  teleconference  was  Troy                                                               
Ritter  of  the Alaska  Native  Tribal  Health Consortium,  which                                                               
works with fluoridated water systems and Village Safe Water.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked whether Mr.  Ritter had any information that he                                                               
believed members needed to know before moving the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:52:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TROY  RITTER,  Environmental  Health  Specialist,  Alaska  Native                                                               
Tribal Health Consortium, offered  some clarification.  Reporting                                                               
that he sits on the  Indian Health Services sanitation (indisc.),                                                               
he  said  this  system  provides about  $20 million  a  year  for                                                               
village water and (indisc.) in  Alaska.  The state's Village Safe                                                               
Water program  is kind  of a partner  funding organization.   "We                                                               
work together  to build pretty  much all Alaskan water  and sewer                                                               
infrastructure,"  he said.    Mr. Ritter  reported  that, from  a                                                               
practical standpoint,  this ability to add  fluoridation later is                                                               
already  being incorporated  - at  least it  is supposed  to work                                                               
that way,  although a couple of  times it wasn't done  because of                                                               
an oversight or an engineer's opinion.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:54:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked whether anyone from DEC was available.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  said no.   He noted that Mr.  Ritter works                                                               
with DEC in designing water systems.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:54:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON moved  to report HCR 5, as  amended, from committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations   and  attached  fiscal  notes.                                                               
Without objection,  SCS HCR 5(HES)  was reported from  the Senate                                                               
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                       

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